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السادة الكرام القائمين علي هدا العمل العظيم ....  tulip

انا اسف حقا علي التاخير .... و لكنها ترهات الحياة ... التي تسمي بالمشاغل ... اكرر اسفي ......

لقد انتهيت من ترجمة الحلقة كاملة .... و تمت مراجعتها .... ملاحظات : "لم يتم ترجمة اسماء الالهة ..... تم تغيير بعض الكلمات و المعاني .... لتناسب السياق اللغوي للغة الانجليزية.... و تؤدي لنفس المعني بالمصطلحات الانجليزية ...... "


و ها هو النص كامل ... و ارجو الا يكون التاخير قد ادي لتعطيل شيء مهم ... و اكرر اسفي للمرة الثالثة ......

"Arab atheists Network presents ….  Qur'an myths ……. Preparation and production by Arab Atheists Network ….. The creation of the universe …….

Babylonians took over Palestine in the late sixth century BC... and then Babylonians  took the Jews  as slaves  to their country , as a result to this friction some myths of Mesopotamia was mixed up with the myths of Jewish holy book the Torah .. Two thousand years ago, Jesus show up as a Jewish teacher, and claimed to be the Messiah, and after he was crucified the core of the main features of the Christian religion was formed… Maintaining the Torah as a holy book and they called it the Old Covenant, and thus become the myths of Torah certified for Christians, who in turn added their own myths to what they called the new Covenant , In the sixth century AD.. in the holy city of Mecca, Muhammad bin Abdullah, claimed that he's a prophet , and as a result to Jews and Christians present in the Arabian Peninsula, and the city of Yathrib near to Mecca that was full of Jewish tribes, The Jewish and Christian myths were transformed to the holly Qur'an …. The book that Muslims believe God sent to Mohammed by revelation.


Since the evolution of the human organism to be the only one capable of thinking about existential issues, began wondering: Who we are, how we came and why, and how the universe were formed , Since the old tools of knowledge were not sufficient to obtain the answers, to our ancient ancestors … myths arose , and various peoples made their own private myths which describe the creation of the universe and man, and the civilizations of Mesopotamia had their own myths of the idea of creationism ,… and it happened to be today's most prevalent idea among human beings due to its transition to Christianity and Islam.

Sumerian conception…..
Sumerian culture flourished in the lower side of  the basin of Tigris and the Euphrates since the beginning of the fourth millennium BC, The Sumerian culture had a significant impact on the culture of the Ancient Near East, as it came up with the Cuneiform script  type of writing which became the mode of writing to all the peoples of the region for two thousand years, in addition to that Sumerian culture has developed Since ancient times, religious and spiritual principles had prevailed for a long period of time, till it's effect reached to the Greek culture in the late periods, and the Sumerian culture was behind developing the first legislation, laws , regulations and city politics , Therefore the Sumerian culture called the cradle of civilizations.

Through what was found of monuments and inscriptions belonging to the Sumerian, scientists were able to rebuild the Sumerian myth of formation and the highlight of it were:
In the beginning was the Goddess "NAMO" all alone, and no one else was there yet, and she was the source of water that everything was emerged out of it, Goddess "NAMO" gave birth to a son and a daughter, the first "Ann" the masculine God of the sky, and the second "keey" the feminine Goddess of the earth, and they were attached with each other, and not separated from their mother "Namo".
Then God "ANN" married Goddess "KEEY" and they got their first born "ANLIL" the god of air, who was between them in a narrow space would not permit him to move, "ANLIL" active young God couldn't afford this prison, so he separated his parents with his extraordinary strength, Raise his father so he became the sky, and extended his mother so she became the earth ….  And started moving all the ways he wants in between his parents …..
But "ANLIL" was living in darkness, so he gave a birth to his son "NANA" the moon God, to dispel the darkness in the sky and lights the Earth.
Afterwards "NANA"   the moon God, gave a birth to "OTTO" the God of the sun who spread the light to the whole world ….
After the sky was separated from earth, and a faint light of the moon, and the warm sunlight, were spread…  "ANLIL" with the rest of Gods created the other aspects of life.

Babylonian conception …..
At the beginning of the second millennium BC, the Babylonian civilization began to flourish as a successor to the Sumerian civilization, so that the Sumerian myth of formation was the base for the Babylonian myth, which re-built it, to be completed in the form of the Babylonian epic of formation "Aliinoma Illich" which codified  eight-ten hundred years BC. And it was found distributed on seven pottery plates, the epic says that there was nothing exists before the source of water represented by the three Gods: "Opso" who is the fresh water, and "TA'AMA" the salt water and opso's wife, and "MAMO" who is the widespread fog over those waters. This first mass of water filled the universe, which flowed from them the rest of the Gods and assets, Gods started the reproductive process so that new generations of young Gods were porn, who caused a nuisance to the first Gods with their non-stop movement and Activities, and disturb the eternal stillness, so "Apso" draw up a plan for the extermination of the new birth so he can return to sleep again, but God "ENKY" was able to defeat
him and took his place , and became the God of fresh water, and after these events God "Murdoch" the greatest God of Babylon, was born of God "ENKY" , and saved them again from the oppression of the old Gods, and crowned  him-self as the master of the holy compound, and then "TA'AMA" began processing an army to face the other team which was entrusted the task of confrontation to "Murdoch" who stipulate to be given special privileges as the power of the "creation" word , and it was given to him , and it was enough for him to say to something the word "be" to be , so they set up a great throne fit for his highness, and crowned him as the master of them all ,and then he faced "TA'AMA" and killed her , afterwards   "Murdoch" tend to the building  of the universe ,  so he returned to the body of  "TA'AMA" (the salt water), and ripped it into two parts , and he Raise the first part so it became the sky , and extended the second  so it became the Earth , and then create the stars , the sun, and the moon and set their orbits , and then created man, animals and plants, and after the completion of the process of creation, God  "Murdoch" met with all Gods and they celebrated crowning him as the master of the universe, and built the city of Babylon, and raise a temple in the middle of it with a peak head-butting the clouds for him .

Biblical conception ….
At the end of the sixth century AD the armies of Babylonian  king "Nebuchad Nasr" were able to destroy the Kingdom of Jews in Palestine, and Jews were taken as slaves to Babylon, so that Jews briefed on the Arts ,the myths and the culture of Mesopotamia, and when they returned to Jerusalem after the conquest of Persians to Babylon, they codified the scattered Torah texts in one book , and the days of their captivity got mixed with the texts they codified , and the "Aliinoma Illich" myth had a profound influence on them, "Aliinoma Illich" was written on seven boards of  pottery, the first six boards , were devoted to describe the events of god and Creatures, and the last board was devoted to describe God "Murdoch" sitting on the throne in the new palace was built by his fellow Gods, and celebrating his victory and the creation of the world, This division has suggested to the biblical editors the idea of the six days of creation and the rest on the seventh day for the creator …. In the Genesis of Torah: " God said : let a tegument be in the middle of the water ,as a separative line between water and water,and so it was , and God made the tegument , and separated between the water under the tegument and the water over the tegument , and God named this tegument  "sky" , and the evening loomed ,
Morning of the second day : God ordered the water under the sky to accumulate in one place and ordered the land to appear , and so it was , and God named the solid land "earth" ,  and the accumulation of water "seas" , and God said for the land to grow plants with seeds                                      come out of it , and a Fruitful trees with various kinds of fruits each according to its seed on the ground , and so it was , and the evening loomed ,
Morning of the third day : God said let sources of light be in the sky to separate day and night, and to be the signs of the seasons , days and years, and to be  sources of light in the sky to light the earth , and so it was as well " ,
Then the Torah says:
"And thus heavens and the earth and all its forces, have been completed, and God ended his work in his seventh day of work, and rested on the seventh day from all his work which was done"
The book "Alhajadh", a type of explanations to the Torah, says:
"God created the heavens of seven layers, starts from the lower heaven that surround the earth at the four directions, and ending with the seventh heaven that reaches to god's throne, and also he made seven layers of the earth as well"

This part is one of the many effects of the Canaanite culture on the Jews, as "EIL" the master of Gods, and the God of heavens for "ogarritiens", sit on his throne in the seventh heaven.

Quran conception …..
As in the case of Mesopotamia and the biblical book Genesis myths , Quran decided that at the beginning there were only god and water , Muhammad the Prophet of Islam said in "Saheeh al-Bukhaari" the most correct book after The Quran for Muslims : "none was exist before god , and his throne was on water, and then created the heavens and the earth" , and in a "hadith" corrected by "Haythami and Arna'ot" " Mohammed was asked : tell me about everything , he said everything is created from water " . As the water was separated into heavens and earth in the myths of Mesopotamia and the Torah, the Quran says so.
As the sky was part of the water that has been lifted According to the Babylonian and Torah myths, the Quran says: The creation of the land and organizing it took four days of the six days of creation. As "Murdoch", after the creation of the heavens and the earth turned to the creation of the shining celestial meteors, and the creation of the sun and the moon as an ornament and decoration to heavens, the Quran says so.
As "Murdoch", rested in his palace and sat on his throne and the rest of Gods celebrated his victory, as reflected in the seventh board of the Babylonian epic conception, just as God in the biblical story rested on the seventh day from all his work which was done, also God in the Quran sat on his throne on the seventh day.

This is what myths said about the creation of the universe, what does science say today?
Since Copernicus proved that the Earth is not the center of the universe in the fifteenth century AD, man's vision to the universe gradually began to change, to reach its peak in our current time and completely interfere with the ancient beliefs and the myths of peoples,
The myth of the creation of the universe , as stated in the Quran , makes the Earth as a central part of the universe as the antithesis of heavens , and the creation of it required four days of six days of creation, but in fact the Earth is only planet Orbiting around star which is the Sun , which is only one of a hundred billion stars in our galaxy, and this in turn, is only one of the hundred billion other galaxies ..
The Quran says that the water is the first assets and the "Hadith" confirms that it's the origin of everything , science says that everything started from a great explosion happened to a micro , great intensity point , led to the formation of Time , Space , and all the materials and energy in the universe ,
On the contrary of the six days of creation of heavens and Earth, the Big Bang had happened fifteen billion years ago, and Earth only formed five billion years ago!!!
Even if we assume that day mentioned in the Quran does not equal the same time of day that we know, a part of the Quran had shown that Day of god equals thousand years of our days  so the maximum possible access to it is that the Earth according to Quran had been formed six thousand years only after the big bang !!!! Even if we Indulged in the assumption and said that the day mentioned in the creation process is an open-ended period of time not specified, the Quran has stated that the creation of the Earth has taken four days of six days of creation , which mean most time of the creation period , while the Earth did not have presence in the most periods of the age of the universe ,
Also what messenger Mohamed said was so clear as he illustrated that the six days of creation is the same days of the week  , as he said in "saheeh Muslim" the second most correct book after The Quran for Muslims " God created the soil on Saturday, and created the mountains on Sunday and on Monday he created  the trees , and the creation of Abomination was on Tuesday and on Wednesday he created the light , and he created the animals on Thursday , and the creation of Adam, peace be upon him was on Friday afternoon "


Therefore the Quran says that after the creation of the Earth, God turned the sky that was just smoke to seven layers of heavens, and the smoke has been mentioned in the Babylonian myths, specifically the Goddess "Namo" that created everything from the fog that was spread over the water
and if we assume that the smoke is the same gas that formed after the great explosion and formed the galaxies , according to Quran this stage has continued after the formation of earth , Despite this science confirms that the gas phase has been extended to three hundred thousand years only after the Big Bang,
The Quran says " That most of the universe was formed after the formation of the earth , but science confirms that the stars and galaxies started taking shapes three hundred million years after the Big Bang , while the earth was formed ten billion years from the Big Bang after the formation of the most of the universe.
The weird thing Is some Muslims such as Doctor Zaghlol El-Naggar, promotes Quran miracles in the same verse, which fully reflected the Mesopotamian myth, "Those who disbelieve have they not seen that the heavens and the earth were identical, and god divided them and made from water every living thing".
and they claim that it refers to the Big Bang, this is an excellent model to what they call Quran miracles, and how it is based on fraud and giving the verses different meanings.
But regardless of all that, if the verse refers to the Big Bang theory it must be "the heavens and the earth were identical , and God divided it" which means the pronoun should refer to the identical , but it says " god divided them" which means that god divided heavens from Earth , the dividing action refers to heavens and Earth that were identical , and this is exactly the same as the Babylonian myth of heavens and earth were water and God " Murdoch" separated them and made the upper water heavens , and the lower water Earth , and the verse, mentioning heaven and Earth together means that the Earth was exist with the heavens from the moment of separation , while science confirms that the earth was formed ten billion years from the Big Bang after the formation of the most of the universe.
The word "explosion" means the dispersal of the substance from a specific point in a form of radiation to a wider point, but "dividing" and "splitting" mean that we have an object and we split it into two parts, as ripping a dress, and this is contrary to data of Big Bang theory, which says that the expansion of the universe was from the point of micro.

Finally, it appears that those who claim Quran miracles had forgotten that the Quran mentioned other stage prior to rupture of heavens and Earth, which is water, that everything was created from it, as Mohammed said.
Thus, the "dividing" mentioned in the verse was to water , as god made the upper part "sky" , and the lower part "Earth" , which is full compliance with the myths of Mesopotamia, and contrast with the realities of modern science.

Music... Over the palm … by Munir Bashir & Omar Bashir …, Babylonian prayer …. By …. Nasser Shamma... It is composed on the scale of music the Babylonian priests of the temple used to play for the King and the parish to help them to pray.


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